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Which comes first, Justification or Stop Sinning?

 The following passages from the Ellen G. White writings and Seventh‑Day Adventist periodicals seem to suggest that justification can be received **before** the individual has stopped sinning or has fully surrendered to Christ.   [^18] ^43 ^45 ^47 ^48   * “Justification is wholly of grace and not procured by any works that fallen man can do.” (p. 31.57)   * “No one can be justified by any works of his own… Faith is the only condition upon which justification can be obtained.” (p. 386.103)   * “No one can be justified by any works of his own… Faith is the only condition upon which justification can be obtained.” (p. 386.113)   * “Faith is the only condition upon which justification can be obtained, and faith includes not only belief but trust.” (p. 386.98)   * “Being justified freely by His grace… The grace of Christ is freely to justify the sinner without merit or claim on his part.” (p. 820.15155)   In contrast,...

Pastors' Appreciation Notes

  Of course, my friend. It is a beautiful thing to set aside this holy   Sabbath   to   honor   and   appreciate   those whom God has called to be shepherds of His flock. Let us look to the Word of God and the inspired counsel for guidance in preparing a message for this special occasion. Here is a sermon outline you may find helpful. Sermon: Upholding the Shepherd's Hands Introduction: A Sabbath of Thanksgiving On this holy  Sabbath , we are called to a special act of worship. The Scriptures invite us to "Enter into his gates with  thanksgiving , and into his courts with  praise : be thankful unto him, and bless his name"  <Psalms 100:4> . Part of that  thanksgiving  is recognizing the gifts God has given His church, including the gift of ministry. It is a day to "bring the  sacrifice  of  praise  into the house of the LORD"  <Jeremiah 33:11> . Indeed, "The preaching at our  Sabba...

Conditions to be Saved

 𝗚𝗲𝗻𝗲𝘀𝗶𝘀 15:6 (𝗞𝗝𝗩): "And he believed in the Lord; and 𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗶𝗺 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝗲𝗼𝘂𝘀𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀." 𝗘𝘅𝗼𝗱𝘂𝘀 14:13 (𝗞𝗝𝗩): "Fear ye not, stand still, and 𝘀𝗲𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗼𝗿𝗱..." 𝗗𝗲𝘂𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗺𝘆 30:19–20 (𝗞𝗝𝗩): "...therefore 𝗰𝗵𝗼𝗼𝘀𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗳𝗲, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest 𝗹𝗼𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗼𝗿𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝘆 𝗚𝗼𝗱, and that thou mayest 𝗼𝗯𝗲𝘆 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘃𝗼𝗶𝗰𝗲..." 2 𝗦𝗮𝗺𝘂𝗲𝗹 22:3 (𝗞𝗝𝗩): "My God, my rock; in him will I 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁... 𝗺𝘆 𝘀𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗼𝗿..." 𝗣𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗺 34:18 (𝗞𝗝𝗩): "The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and 𝘀𝗮𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝘀𝘂𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝘀 𝗯𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗮 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗲 𝘀𝗽𝗶𝗿𝗶𝘁." 𝗣𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗺 51:17 (𝗞𝗝𝗩): "The 𝘀𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗚𝗼𝗱 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗮 𝗯𝗿𝗼𝗸𝗲𝗻 𝘀𝗽𝗶𝗿𝗶𝘁: a broken and a contrite heart..." 𝗜𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗮𝗵 45:22 (𝗞𝗝𝗩): "𝗟𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗲, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 ...

regarding student convocation or chapel period in an adventist school w/c are on friday morning (not sabbath), what are supposed to be the contents of programs involving all undergraduate students in a church about weekly or every other week? If "garbage collection/segregation" is viewed as a temporal detail or an aspect of institutional business/management, its inclusion in the main undergraduate chapel/convocation period would be a misfocus?

Greetings again, my friend. It is wise to seek clarity on these matters, for how we use our time, especially in gatherings dedicated to the Lord, is of great importance. Let us examine the counsel provided for a convocation held on a Friday morning, the preparation day for the holy Sabbath. The principles for such a gathering remain rooted in spiritual purposes, even though it is not the Sabbath itself. The focus should always be on uplifting the soul and preparing the students for a life of holiness and service. Content for a Friday Morning Convocation Spiritual Foundation and Doctrine The primary objective of any religious meeting is spiritual growth. The instruction remains to " preach  the word" and "exhort with all longsuffering and  doctrine ."  <2 Timothy 4:2> . The assembly should be a time for students to be " nourished  up in the words of faith and of good  doctrine "  <1 Timothy 4:6> , that their "profiting may appear to all....

how to react to reports of corruption in many levels of government?

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My friend, it is truly disheartening to hear of the  corruption  that pervades the systems of this world. Your question is an important one, and the Scriptures and the writings I have provide much counsel on how we are to understand and react to these troubling reports. Let us look together at what has been revealed. Acknowledge the Reality and Expectation of Corruption The Word of God and accompanying testimonies make it clear that such conditions are an expected sign of our times. We are told not to be surprised by these events, as they have been described by the prophets. From the Bible: "If thou seest the  oppression  of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province, marvel not at the matter: for he that is higher than the highest regardeth; and there be higher than they."  <Ecclesiastes 5:8> "If a  ruler  hearken to lies, all his servants are  wicked ."  <Proverbs 29:12> "Thy princes are rebellious, a...

28+ reasons i like Last Generation Theology over anti-LGT

  LGT vs anti-LGT considerations: 1. Jesus said "be YE perfect" mat 5:48. in 28 out of 30 english translations. the other 2 say "complete". 2. satan said that the law cannot be followed. and should be edited. 3. many people in the bible are described as perfect/blameless/righteous. 4. perfect is a point/span of time. lucifer was perfect. adam, eve also. 5. imperfect people can become perfect (144k, great multitude, white robes, pure) despite previous sins because of grace/repentance/forgiveness/atonement/salvation. 6. psalm 51:5 is metaphor. it also doesn't say born with sin. otherwise Jesus would also be born with sin? being born of mary. 7. LGT proponents understand the difference between "claiming"/"indulging the thought that one is" perfect(ion) vs "be ye"/striving 8. the remnant, the 144,000, the great multitude keep ALL the commandments 9. the definition of sin, the all 3 authorities (bible, church, EGW) in the 28fundamental b...

why will the last repentant generation / remnant / 144,000 not claim / think they are perfect / sinless even if prophecy says so?

why will the last repentant generation / remnant / 144,000 not claim / think they are perfect / sinless even if prophecy says so? 1. "No One Knows When Probation Will Close" [LDE 277] 2. "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Jeremiah 17:9 3. "The Lord has not given us a list of graded sins, so that we may reckon some as of little consequence, and say that they will do but little harm, while others are of greater magnitude and will do much harm" [MYP 91.2]. 4. even Jesus who knew He would resurrect, said, "if it be possible, let this cup pass from me" (Mt 26:39) because "His soul was filled with an overpowering fear of separation from God in consequence of sin" [ST, June 3, 1897 par. 6].

Filipino teachers going to US/Canada

 It appears you're considering the potential benefits, particularly financial, for teachers from the Adventist Schools in the Philippines to move to the U.S. or Canada, while also being rightly concerned about the negative influences that might affect their children, such as adopting worldly habits like certain clothing styles (short skirts, much makeup) or tattoos. The sources provide significant insight into these considerations from an Adventist perspective, generally discouraging moves primarily for financial gain and highlighting the dangers of worldly influences, especially in large centers , while also emphasizing the missionary call for consecrated teachers . Here's a breakdown of the relevant information from the sources: Concerns about Moving to "The U.S." (Historically, Battle Creek) and Worldly Influences on Children The sources strongly caution against moving to central locations, like Battle Creek (which served as a major Adventist hub in the U.S.), ...

are you perfect???

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  be ye perfect anti: are you perfect? salvation anti: are you saved? ---- what is the term that if someone teaches "be ye therefore perfect" as what the bible says and others retort to "are you perfect?" to enliken to teaching salvation and being questioned "are you saved?" when egw says you cannot say "i am saved" surely unless after glorification. and you also cannot say you're perfect. ---- The dynamic you're describing—when someone teaches the biblical imperative *"Be ye therefore perfect"* (Matthew 5:48), and others respond with *"Are you perfect?"*—is an example of a **"rhetorical trap"** or **"gotcha retort."** It’s often intended to discredit the teaching by highlighting a perceived inconsistency between the ideal being taught and the teacher's personal state. More specifically, this kind of interaction can be labeled as: --- ### 1. **Tu quoque fallacy** ("you too" fallacy) *...

anti-LGT vs EGW Estate

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  Chap. 16. - The Close of Probation No One Knows When Probation Will Close God has not revealed to us the time when this message will close or when probation will have an end. Those things that are revealed we shall accept for ourselves and for our children, but let us not seek to know that which has been kept secret in the councils of the Almighty. . . . {LDE 227.1} Letters have come to me asking me if I have any special light as to the time when probation will close, and I answer that I have only this message to bear, that it is now time to work while the day lasts, for the night cometh in which no man can work.--1SM 191 (1894). {LDE 227.2} Sunday-Law Enforcement Precedes the Close of Probation The Lord has shown me clearly that the image of the beast will be formed before probation closes, for it is to be the great test [SEE THE PREVIOUS CHAPTER, WHERE THE GREAT TEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD IS SHOWN TO BE SUNDAY-LAW ENFORCEMENT.] for the people of God, by which 228 their eternal ...

Verbatim "Last / Final Generation" in EGW Writings

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22 instances. In this  last generation  the parable of the mustard seed is to reach a signal and triumphant fulfillment. The little seed will become a tree. The last message of warning and mercy is to go to "every nation and kindred and tongue" (Revelation 14:6-14), "to take out of them a people for his name" (Acts 15:14; Revelation 18:1). And the earth shall be lightened with His glory. {AG 17.5} And in this  last generation  the parable of the mustard seed is to reach a signal and triumphant fulfillment. The little seed will become a tree. The last message of warning and mercy is to go to "every nation and kindred and tongue" (Revelation 14:6-14), "to take out of them a people for His name" (Acts 15:14; Revelation 18:1). And the earth shall be lightened with His glory. {COL 79.3} THIS REMNANT, EXISTING AMID THE SIGNS AND WONDERS THAT USHER IN THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD, IS DOUBTLESS THE REMNANT OF THE SEED OF THE WOMAN SPOKEN OF IN ...