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are you perfect???

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  be ye perfect anti: are you perfect? salvation anti: are you saved? ---- what is the term that if someone teaches "be ye therefore perfect" as what the bible says and others retort to "are you perfect?" to enliken to teaching salvation and being questioned "are you saved?" when egw says you cannot say "i am saved" surely unless after glorification. and you also cannot say you're perfect. ---- The dynamic you're describing—when someone teaches the biblical imperative *"Be ye therefore perfect"* (Matthew 5:48), and others respond with *"Are you perfect?"*—is an example of a **"rhetorical trap"** or **"gotcha retort."** It’s often intended to discredit the teaching by highlighting a perceived inconsistency between the ideal being taught and the teacher's personal state. More specifically, this kind of interaction can be labeled as: --- ### 1. **Tu quoque fallacy** ("you too" fallacy) *...

anti-LGT vs EGW Estate

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  Chap. 16. - The Close of Probation No One Knows When Probation Will Close God has not revealed to us the time when this message will close or when probation will have an end. Those things that are revealed we shall accept for ourselves and for our children, but let us not seek to know that which has been kept secret in the councils of the Almighty. . . . {LDE 227.1} Letters have come to me asking me if I have any special light as to the time when probation will close, and I answer that I have only this message to bear, that it is now time to work while the day lasts, for the night cometh in which no man can work.--1SM 191 (1894). {LDE 227.2} Sunday-Law Enforcement Precedes the Close of Probation The Lord has shown me clearly that the image of the beast will be formed before probation closes, for it is to be the great test [SEE THE PREVIOUS CHAPTER, WHERE THE GREAT TEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD IS SHOWN TO BE SUNDAY-LAW ENFORCEMENT.] for the people of God, by which 228 their eternal ...

Verbatim "Last / Final Generation" in EGW Writings

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22 instances. In this  last generation  the parable of the mustard seed is to reach a signal and triumphant fulfillment. The little seed will become a tree. The last message of warning and mercy is to go to "every nation and kindred and tongue" (Revelation 14:6-14), "to take out of them a people for his name" (Acts 15:14; Revelation 18:1). And the earth shall be lightened with His glory. {AG 17.5} And in this  last generation  the parable of the mustard seed is to reach a signal and triumphant fulfillment. The little seed will become a tree. The last message of warning and mercy is to go to "every nation and kindred and tongue" (Revelation 14:6-14), "to take out of them a people for His name" (Acts 15:14; Revelation 18:1). And the earth shall be lightened with His glory. {COL 79.3} THIS REMNANT, EXISTING AMID THE SIGNS AND WONDERS THAT USHER IN THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD, IS DOUBTLESS THE REMNANT OF THE SEED OF THE WOMAN SPOKEN OF IN ...