are you perfect???

be ye perfect anti: are you perfect? salvation anti: are you saved? ---- what is the term that if someone teaches "be ye therefore perfect" as what the bible says and others retort to "are you perfect?" to enliken to teaching salvation and being questioned "are you saved?" when egw says you cannot say "i am saved" surely unless after glorification. and you also cannot say you're perfect. ---- The dynamic you're describing—when someone teaches the biblical imperative *"Be ye therefore perfect"* (Matthew 5:48), and others respond with *"Are you perfect?"*—is an example of a **"rhetorical trap"** or **"gotcha retort."** It’s often intended to discredit the teaching by highlighting a perceived inconsistency between the ideal being taught and the teacher's personal state. More specifically, this kind of interaction can be labeled as: --- ### 1. **Tu quoque fallacy** ("you too" fallacy) *...